Just to chime in: controlling a group vs controlling individual lights is pretty critical for a superior user experience. I have groups of 4 lights in various rooms, and when turning on, off, or changing a group vs 4 individual lights you’ll definitely see with almost no effort the sync of the group vs individual lights. It can be pretty blatant, even if no other Zigbee commands are being fired - so I hope group binding will be possible.
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100 percent agree. This is a huge selling point for our switch and we need to nail it.
Are these available for pre order yet?
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Lol not yet, I want to make sure we have a set date of production (or at least a confirmed spot on the line with an approximate date) as well as finalized firmware before posting anything.
It still makes me nervous that UL hasn’t said anything, but I’m hoping no news is good news. The last thing I want to have happen is they come back with some hardware change requirement and pre-orders are pushed back.
Sorry, I know everyone is excited - I promise I’ll get them up as soon as I can. I’m targeting early April!
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Thanks for the heads up. I purchased a bunch of inovelli light strips in anticipation of using them with these new switches for under cabinet kitchen lighting, as well as other automation around the house. Can we expect an aux switch to follow shortly? I’d like to clean up all these 3 way and 4 way switches. It’s driving me insane!
Ha, yeah completely understand. Yes, I keep forgetting to talk about the aux switch (thanks for the reminder!)
They should be launching at the same time 
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You just made my evening.
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Glad I could help! Appreciate your support, it really means a lot!
Yes and no on this. I’ll use Ikea as an example. For years you could bind their buttons to groups (typically bulb groups). But as of firmware 2.3.75 and newer, they’ve completely dropped support for binding to groups. You can now only bind them to individual devices. But you can bind to multiple individual devices at the same time. And I will say, there is absolutely no noticeable difference between binding them to a group of bulbs vs all the individual bulbs.
Is there a limit like zwave? Zwave is 5 per association.
It is my understanding this is a limit of the inovelli devices, not necessarily z-wave itself, but I might be wrong.
Good to know. Most of my devices with associations are inovelli.
I believe you’re correct it’s a device limitation, however 5 seems to be the common maximum from what I can tell? Some have fewer, some have more, but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
Project Update: We’re working on Group vs Individual binding right now. The challenge is honestly the language barrier, which I think we broke through this morning. The biggest issue was the engineers were trying to figure out why we needed group binding for 1-2 smart lights. They didn’t realize you all were crazy and in some cases may have large networks where every optimization in networks speed counts. The other issue was they were concerned about bulbs being out of sync if someone remotely controls a bulb that’s inside a binding.
In other words, if you have 5 bulbs bound to a switch, if someone remotely turns on one of the bulbs (and the other four are off), now your group is out of sync. However, this is ok, and is normal behavior. The next time someone presses up on the switch (and an on command is sent), the remaining four bulbs will turn on and they will be in sync again.
So, I think we’re in the clear – it’s just a matter of implementing it now.
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Outside of that, the back of the switch has been designed (I’m hoping I can get the multi-color on the back, but if not, it will just be all white):
I’m also working on the printed manual right now, which is my least favorite thing to do lol.
Each section will start with a blue page and will have a QR code (and URL) to the digital portion that lives in the Wiki.
Rather than folded paper, it will be a mini-booklet (trying to give off that, “polished” Inovelli vibe). I like how it’s turning out.
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I think it is everyones least favorite thing.
I know I hate it.
Have you concidered doing a video? Or could that get into legalities showing a person how to do electrical work?
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It would be very much appreciated if someone had a video showing how to wire a 3/4/5 way switch with one of these. My pockets will thank me in forgoing an electrician.
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I will draw up some 5-Ways, but in the meantime curious to hear what you think about the schematics shown here:
It’s hard to create videos for wiring bc there are so many different scenarios, but I tried to draw before and after schematics (and I’m hoping, since this is digital, we can continue to add to the schematics).
Do the schematics make sense or is there anything I can do to make them more user friendly?
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Honestly, I think your schematic pictures are excellent and much better than videos
Update: Parameter list has been released - 2-1 Parameter List
Over 60 different parameters!
I’m working on a more user friendly way to display these but unfortunately Discourse (what the community is built on) is somewhat limited in showing data tables. I wish there was a way to freeze the top row.
If anyone has a better way, I’m all ears. One thought was to create something like the Bulb Compatibility App, where you would be able to click on the product and it would show all the parameters, but that will take a bit for me to learn. I also think we may run into the same issue where it’s still hard to read on mobile.
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I think it has a typo…
if you double-tap down on the Aux/Add-On switch, the 2-1 switch will send a, “Button 2 - Pushed”
Double-tap Down sends a “Button 2 - Held” event
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